Make it one of those shops where everything is permanently in stock for the following reasons -

1. It should cut down the endless site errors if hundreds of people aren't continually refreshing in there. The site errors make doing anything else such as questing and restocking sheer misery.

2. Many players are frustrated because they can never restock anything no matter how hard they try. This means it's not a fun event for them.

3. It would be a great sP sink.

Oh god no!

This is one of the two remaining chances for proper restocking of holiday items left (the other being Migrating Masks, and that isn't such a challenge since it was open for a month this year). I love it! I love the rush of grabbing what you can and the clock-watching and properly earning items that will actually hold some value because not everyone has them. Having everything in a constantly stocked shop is boring. There are already other ways to get FTC items (Carl, vending, and I got one of the new items from Cursed quests today), and I'd hate to see the whole thing undermined because it actually poses a challenge.

Plus, I'm not convinced that it's the refreshing that's causing the errors. The site's seen way more activity and refreshing and held together throughout that.

Everything said minus the personal love of restocking. I don't like restocking for limited items and I'm not even going to bother getting near freyalise to restock, but I still think there should be a variety of events. If there are people who like the rush of grabbing items whether they're otherwise restockers or not, I say leave it. The rest of us, including myself, can get the new items via vending or questing and that's more than a substantial alternative imo.

Great sP sink versus killing the value of the merchandise. I love restocking and I missed doing so for a while now. You can literally vend these new items and get them through questing which is fine enough with me. I prefer how it works now.

Can't say I would hate it if it was changed to permanently stocked shop, but we have a lot of those and yeah, they are a bit boring. Also, several of new items are below 1 mln in SS, that's pretty cheap, so prices drop well too. IMO, just a bit of tweaking the restock rate might make it less frustrating for people. I managed to get couple of wearables and collection items this year, BUT: it's only cause I did my restocking when there was less than 500 people online (for European, that's middle of my day off, so perfect). Any time there's 600 and more users online I won't bother with the shop, it's of no use. So, changing the restocks so that they won't get sold out under 5 seconds, before even "Restocked Now" notice appears, wouldn't kill anyone, huh?

Definitely no! I don't normally restock, but I love the challenge of trying to RS in the Freyalise.... and even without a super fast broadband connection, I've still managed to restock quite a few things in there.

Even on the years when I've only managed to RS one solitary item the entire time the shop was open, I'd hate the shop to be ne of the new 'permanently stocked' style shops :(

I don't think the freyalise should be a permastock shop either, but if we could have like a system where the stock is basically set up like a permastock (no shop inventory limit) that rotates every 10 to 20 minutes (and stock frequency is based on rarity and chance, etc), I think it would be a fairly good balance. Even upping the base priceline for this kind of setup would be good/fine I think? Or even, have a little bit of randomness in pricing, like Ujin's Fresh and Flavorful floating market produce stand.

I understand some people are appealed by the "oh gotta RS, snatch some goods" kinda thing but yea, I'm not sure if the mass scramble is what Subeta wants to continue doing, moving towards the future. Like, they've halted doing RS wars pretty much...

idk I guess it just really depends. Like, some of the "crappier" commons do deflate down to like 3k sP, which I guess is normal for a restocking shop, but some of the high end rares stay nearly impossible to get a hold of. On this point, it really just narrows down to if Keith/Subeta wants less outliers on item prices, having it stay as it is, or doesn't care either way.

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edit: I'm not sure if vending contributes to the lowering of commons' user shop price points. But others did mention that there are alternate (but honestly? a completely random and quite a bit worse imo) ways to get Freyalise items as well. I guess it also depends of if it's possible for the Mystery Box to restock Freyalise as well, I'd really buy into that as also a great sP sink.

also, I just vended 100 items from the OD. I got 0 Freyalise items..... totally not a good alternate :/

also yesterday i vended 500 items and got no freyalise items where as the day before that i vended 500 and got like four or five? it's not great.

I think there could be more fun/lore with the shop tbh. They're pirates. Why are we not bargaining with them? Why are they not telling us to take a long walk off a short plank?

To piggyback off the other ideas, I like the idea of the rotating perma-stock, like the brewery or the shops in shengui-go, but you have to haggle with the pirates, and they have the right to turn down your offer. But the catch is you can offer only once (or three times. IDK) during that specific stock rotation. So you may get three items, you may get none. It would be fun, I think, and something different than just staring at an empty shop for hours on end and hoping to fuck you catch a restock.

Make it permanent, BUT with its own currency (DUBLOONS), imo. Make Keelhauliday go from September 1st to September 30th, have Babette, Carl, Angrybeard and Dirty Matty have a high chance of giving you a couple pieces of currency for restocking/doing his quests/whacking rats/playing the drunk thing game

That way, you have to go and take part in activities in Port Plunder, you can't buy everything with SP on day one. You'll have 30 days to get currency, and it makes more sense than both being a restockable shop, and using SP.

If we made it a permanent shop and just used SP, people would just buy everything on the first day, and the rest of Keelhauliday would be super irrelevant.

I think this is a brilliant idea and a lot more fun than sitting at the computer endlessly refreshing. Any dubloons we don't spend one year could be carried over to the next like all the other holiday currencies.

Even stocking more items more often would help. Sometimes it's like twenty minutes between restocks, and everything disappears within seconds when it does, making the whole thing super frustrating. Throwing some more stuff in the shop every couple of minutes would make it easier to get something, but wouldn't change the actual "style" of the holiday and I think that's a decent compromise.

No. The shop is fine the way it is. Yes it can be hella frustrating but it's not that hard to get things from the shop if you're just dedicated. Plus you can vend and quest for the new items.

However I would like to see it stock more items with each restock.

I would really like this to happen

I like how this holiday actually promotes buying things from other users if you aren't lucky enough to vend or get from Carl's quests what you want, and you aren't great at restocking. Each holiday shouldn't be a guarantee you get every item that is released. That's why most holiday items are relatively worthless for awhile. Keel Hauliday is one of the few holidays where the items retain value for awhile

I hate restocking at Freyalise. I never get anything no matter how long or how often I go there. Yet, with that said, I'm fine with the way it runs now. I like that you can get a few items from carl and a couple from OD.

I like that there are various ways of getting stuff here. The site has already nerfed a lot of the variety and I really hate the thought of getting rid of any more.

I do like 's idea, but I really, really, really don't want another currency.

I'm still amused that some people are suggesting that vending for the items is actually an option. Thank goodness that they added some Freyalise stock to quest rewards tho, otherwise I would have literally gotten 5 Freyalise items from restocking so far. I've been on and off refreshing and watching the shop for maybe passive 5ish hours that I've been hanging on Subeta in the last week, and for a "dedicated" constant refreshing of that shop page for about an hour total. I know I'm not every "old" user, but I have been here for almost ten years, and this is not even close to my idea of fun. I might see restocked items for a split second and most of the time when I click through to them, they're sold out. If this is your idea of fun, then so be it then.

If not for Carl quests, users who are more "casual" than me probably have an even worse chance at catching any restocking Freyalise items.

I also don't feel that the "items retaining value" is a good argument for keeping the system as it is. You probably restocked your "worth 10 mil" item for 10k tops, sure. But other non-restocking holiday items from other shops don't actually "lose" value, it's the items that are from floaters spam (well, even some floating flowers are still expensive individually) or from user profile spam (think morostide trick or treat) that get heavily deflated. That said, a lot of commons that people grab in the restocking scramble get really deflated because they grabbed those items in the nick of time, but didnt check if either actually wanted item, or [in cases where you're trying to restock for a profit] didnt get to price check. If you didn't want those in the user shop circulation, then having an alternate to normal restocking shop would probably eliminate some heavily deflated items

as long as i can still grab random items from carl i'll accept how things are, since i have zero interest in restocking, particularly in a shop with such ridiculous competition. it'd certainly be nicer for a casual player like me if it became a permanently stocked shop, but it'd probably also make the event even more brain-dead. i certainly don't like this holiday, or event, or whatever it is though. it's very... bland if you're not restocking. i understand that not every event can be a big one like vesnali, but it's still extremely underwhelming. edit: also, vending is pretty much a crapshoot unless you use ALL of your vending opportunities, every day, for the entire event, and that's a lot of wizard tokens

vending is a very viable option. I've gotten numerous items from it. Sure you won't get everything you need, but you shouldn't really be able to get everything you need through vending. I find this event more "fun" than other holidays. So this one isn't for you, there are many others that follow similar formats. This is the only one that works like this, and it being unique does make it more fun.

The items from permanent stock shops don't have much trading value. You buy what you need, you get out. It really doesn't make events fun though since you buy things quickly and don't need to do any of the event the rest of the time. I don't think we need another new years token-like currency and event setup. It's more of the same old thing.

And just as a note, I have been able to restock from hotel wifi, which we all know is not very good. Not liking restocking is one thing, but it's very possible to grab items without a really great connection.

I don't like this Suggestion or any of the other alternates. They're not fun, or they're repeats of other shops at which point it's just repetition which is less fun.

I get one Freyalise item per 100 Vends, which is a pretty good return for vending. I've also been getting them at a small but noticeable drop rate from all quest grantors instead of just Carl, which is new. Very few items from FTS are reselling for unachieveable-ever prices and those that do drop in price over time. As much as all y'all may want every item all the time always, some things at Subeta you may have to wait for or earn, golly!

Not every special shop in Subeta has to work exactly the same as every other shop. Some people enjoy restock wars, there's no reason to steal or prevent their fun, because sP is a game scrip and it is not real money.

While everyone is restocking at the Freyalise the restocking everywhere else is becoming easy pickings Use your profits from this to buy your piratey items.